Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

04/26/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:37:33 PM Start
01:38:52 PM Governor's Appointments: Brett Huber, Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission; Robert Doyle, Regulatory Commission of Alaska
02:11:25 PM SB57
02:24:17 PM SB58
02:40:43 PM HB28
03:01:25 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: Alaska TELECONFERENCED
Oil and Gas Conservation Commission - Brett
Huber; Regulatory Commission of Alaska - Robert
Doyle
+= HB 58 ADULT HOME CARE; MED ASSISTANCE TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ SB 57 ADULT HOME CARE; MED ASSISTANCE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 58 MEDICAID ELIGIBILITY: POSTPARTUM MOTHERS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS SB 58(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 28 ACCESS TO MARIJUANA CONVICTION RECORDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 58                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating  to  Medicaid eligibility;  expanding                                                                    
     eligibility  for postpartum  mothers; conditioning  the                                                                    
     expansion  of eligibility  on  approval  by the  United                                                                    
     States  Department of  Health and  Human Services;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:24:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY  RICCI,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH,                                                                    
relayed  that Dr.  Zink was  currently in  another committee                                                                    
meeting and would join as soon as she was able.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked for a quick summary of the bill.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  replied  that the  bill  would  extend  Medicaid                                                                    
coverage for postpartum mothers from 60 days to 12 months.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  MOVED  to   ADOPT  Amendment  1,  33-                                                                    
GS1583\A.1 (Dunmire,  4/25/23) (copy on file)  [note: due to                                                                    
the  amendment length  it has  not been  included here.  See                                                                    
copy on file for details].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp explained  the amendment. The amendment                                                                    
would increase  eligibility of postpartum coverage  from 200                                                                    
percent  to 225  percent  of the  federal  poverty line.  He                                                                    
explained there  was a certain population  of individuals in                                                                    
between income  requirements who  did not quite  make enough                                                                    
money to  afford health insurance, but  during the expansion                                                                    
of the  postpartum coverage  they may  fall into  a category                                                                    
with  no health  insurance coverage.  He stated  it was  his                                                                    
goal to help  make Alaska one of the  most pro-family states                                                                    
in  the union.  He thought  the  best way  to do  so was  to                                                                    
ensure  certain coverage  was extended  to  segments of  the                                                                    
population  who  were  unable   to  get  quality  healthcare                                                                    
because  they   effectively  made  $3  more   an  hour.  The                                                                    
amendment would  cover more of  those women and  would allow                                                                    
them to have quality healthcare.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked what  the impact  to the  fiscal note                                                                    
would be.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp answered  that  so  far the  amendment                                                                    
would add an  additional $1.5 million to the  bill and would                                                                    
cover up to 450 more women.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  observed that the federal  portion was $6.4                                                                    
million and  the state  portion was  $2.6 million.  He asked                                                                    
about the federal/state funding breakdown.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp answered  it was  the state  GF, which                                                                    
leveraged substantial  federal funding through  the Medicaid                                                                    
program.  He detailed  that the  Federal Medical  Assistance                                                                    
Percentage (FMAP) was  70 percent with 30  percent funded by                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:28:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin fully  supported  the amendment.  She                                                                    
did not  think it  was possible to  do enough  given current                                                                    
data with regard to children  and pregnant moms and rates of                                                                    
issues  downstream. She  asked about  any assessment  on the                                                                    
savings given upstream healthcare costs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. ANNE ZINK, CHIEF  MEDICAL OFFICER, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH,                                                                    
answered that  savings would  be hard  to calculate  for the                                                                    
bill.  However, the  department had  submitted data  showing                                                                    
the  best  return on  investment  for  kids and  moms  would                                                                    
result  in  the first  year  of  life. She  highlighted  the                                                                    
importance of  supporting the mental and  physical health of                                                                    
mothers,   which   in   turn  impacted   adverse   childhood                                                                    
experiences.  She  shared   statistics  indicating  that  26                                                                    
percent more  children would receive their  first well child                                                                    
checks if  their mom had  access to health  insurance. There                                                                    
was evidence of dental care  and immunizations being able to                                                                    
move  upstream  along  those lines.  She  relayed  that  the                                                                    
national  CBO [Congressional  Budget Office]  looked at  the                                                                    
long-term savings and included the  service as an option due                                                                    
to its  importance moving forward  as a country.  She stated                                                                    
that it was challenging to  calculate the savings for Alaska                                                                    
and therefore  it was not  included in the fiscal  note. The                                                                    
fiscal note  only included the  cost associated  with people                                                                    
using care.  She noted the  number of people using  the care                                                                    
would be very small.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:31:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci spoke  to the  proposed amendment.  Initially the                                                                    
department had  looked at  the number  of women  between the                                                                    
ages  of 15  and 45  in Alaska  and based  on the  community                                                                    
population  survey,  the  department determined  there  were                                                                    
about  7,000  women  with  an income  between  200  and  220                                                                    
percent   of  the   federal   poverty   level.  There   were                                                                    
approximately   64.3   births   per  1,000,   resulting   in                                                                    
approximately  450 births  per year  in the  population. The                                                                    
department had  then applied the  $566 per mother  per month                                                                    
to the 450  births per year that would be  covered under the                                                                    
amendment. The  calculation applied coverage to  nine months                                                                    
of  pregnancy  and 12  months  of  postpartum coverage.  The                                                                    
estimate   was   still  being   dialed   in,   but  it   was                                                                    
approximately $5.3  million. The state would  be responsible                                                                    
for 20 percent, estimated at $1.5 million.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin appreciated  the responses, which were                                                                    
helpful  for the  committee to  understand the  full picture                                                                    
when  thinking  about  how  to  expand  and  provide  better                                                                    
services,  particularly  in  light that  the  implementation                                                                    
could not  take place  for over a  year. She  considered the                                                                    
opportunity to provide additional  coverage to 450 women and                                                                    
believed   it  would   result   in   less  emergency   care.                                                                    
Additionally,  she thought  about  the  importance of  early                                                                    
identification  of  learning  issues   with  regard  to  the                                                                    
education  system.  She   highlighted  the  downstream  cost                                                                    
associated with  remedial work within education  and how the                                                                    
costs had been considered on  a national level. She believed                                                                    
there  may be  some available  numbers for  national savings                                                                    
with  regard  to making  the  investment  early. She  looked                                                                    
forward to hearing  how the program went  and was interested                                                                    
in local Alaska  data. She could not think  of anything more                                                                    
important in terms of an investment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:34:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hannan  referred to  Representative  Stapp's                                                                    
explanation that Amendment  1 would move from 200  to 225 of                                                                    
the  federal poverty  line. She  noted the  brackets in  the                                                                    
amendment specified the number  175. She presumed the figure                                                                    
reflected current statute.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp  replied   that  Alaska's   effective                                                                    
statutes  regarding  many of  the  Medicaid  rates were  not                                                                    
accurate. Following  the passage of Medicaid  expansion, the                                                                    
Centers for  Medicare and  Medicaid Services  (CMS) required                                                                    
the state to cover people  at higher levels of poverty line.                                                                    
He explained that  most of the statutes did  not reflect the                                                                    
change.  He  deferred  to   the  department  for  additional                                                                    
detail.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci responded  that in 2014 there  had been nationwide                                                                    
changes  in  the Medicaid  program  and  income levels  were                                                                    
calculated based  on modified adjusted gross  income (MAGI).                                                                    
States  were  required  to  adopt  the  change  for  certain                                                                    
Medicaid categories,  resulting in an effective  200 percent                                                                    
rate of the federal poverty level.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   highlighted  the   importance   of                                                                    
ensuring babies'  safety. She  noted the  increase [proposed                                                                    
in  the amendment]  was much  smaller in  reality than  when                                                                    
compared  to statute.  She supported  the amendment  and the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:36:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  thanked Ms. Ricci for  her explanation                                                                    
of how  the department arrived  at the 450 [births  per year                                                                    
in Alaska within the particular population].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  thanked Representative  Stapp  for                                                                    
proposing the  amendment. She appreciated the  detailed work                                                                    
to ensure the bill covered many women as possible.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson referenced  Ms. Ricci's  statement                                                                    
that the  department was still  vetting the  number included                                                                    
in its  fiscal note.  He asked  for verification  the number                                                                    
would be in the range of $1.5 million.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci replied  that it was what  the department believed                                                                    
based on  the numbers. The department  was currently working                                                                    
with  its  divisions  to  ensure  it  had  contemplated  any                                                                    
additional unintended cost. The  department was also working                                                                    
actively with CMS  to ensure it understood  any changes that                                                                    
the  federal  agency may  require.  She  confirmed that  the                                                                    
department anticipated the cost  would be approximately $5.3                                                                    
million total  cost including approximately $1.5  million in                                                                    
undesignated general funds.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for verification  there was                                                                    
nothing under  Title 42  (the U.S. code)  or CMS  that would                                                                    
prohibit going to the proposed rate.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci confirmed there was  nothing she was aware of that                                                                    
would  prohibit the  change. She  noted  there were  several                                                                    
other states  that had implemented  rates at the  same level                                                                    
or  higher.   She  noted   it  was   a  matter   of  clearly                                                                    
understanding  the process  CMS  required in  order for  the                                                                    
state to make the changes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:38:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink  emphasized that the  estimates looked  at previous                                                                    
services a mother needed and  used. She clarified it did not                                                                    
mean it  was the  amount that  would be spent  or had  to be                                                                    
spent. There was a lot of  work being done by the Department                                                                    
of Health to  decrease the need in order to  be able to move                                                                    
upstream  to create  preventative  services  outside of  the                                                                    
specific area.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment 1 was ADOPTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  MOVED to  REPORT  HCS  SB 58(FIN)  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HCS  SB 58(FIN)  was REPORTED  out of  committee with  a "do                                                                    
pass" recommendation  and with  two new fiscal  impact notes                                                                    
from the Department of Health.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB058 Letters of Support 3.13.23.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58
SB058 Research Maternal Mortality 12.1.2022 .pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58
SB058 Presentation 3.7.2023.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58
SB058 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58
SB058 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58
SB058 Summary Version A.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58
AMIA Support for HB 28 - 2.9.23.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 28
HB 28 NEW FN DPS CJIS 42023.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 28
HB 028 v.S. summary of changes.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 28
HB 28 SPONSOR STATEMENT 2.28.23.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 28
HB 28 Support Letter.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 28
HB 28 Updated Supporting Document - Leg Research Report 3.4.2020.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 28
HB 28 v.S. Sectional Analysis .pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 28
SB 8 Support Letter - AMIA - 2.25.20.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 8
SB 58 Amendment 1 Stapp v. A.1.doc 042523.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58
SB 58 Postpartum Medicaid HFIN Response 042623.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58
SB 57 Sectional Analysis Version S.A.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 57
SB057 Explanation of Changes Version S to Version S.A.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 57
Gov Appt Brett Huber AOGCC Public Testimony Rec'd by 042623.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58 Public Testimony Rec'd by 042623.pdf HFIN 4/26/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 58